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Firstly, a very horrible law has been passed in Florida. Women who want to give their children up for adoption have to supply the names and addresses of any potential fathers, or post in the local paper for four weeks their full name and description along with the information they have regarding the men. Just think about the possibilities. Then, consider the fact that this law applies even in the case of women who want their long-term partners to have responsibility in law for the children of a past relationship (and whose partners may well regard their children as their own), and even in the case of rape. What a fucking stupid law! As I said in my rant about it, I can't be complacent just because it's happening in the US - whatever gets passed there gets here sooner or later.

It's a fucking Nanny State law. In trying to stop people having sex outside marriage, it treats us like idiot children instead of the adults we are. We should be allowed to make our choices without the state dictating its morality to us. Giving a child up for adoption is a responsible and difficult act, and women who are doing so should be given every assistance - not made to feel like criminals! Making women in stable relationships, who want their partners to have parental responsibility in law for their child go through it - is absolutely crazy. And to make the victims of rape go through it, oh my giddy aunt - it's like raping them again.

And of course the fucking abortion rate is going to go up as a result of it! Duh!!

Gah. I am angry now.

And PETA are being fucking morons, too. I should, in theory, support the work of PETA - I am vegetarian, almost-vegan, for political reasons - if I was world dictator, no one would eat animal products produced from actual animals. But I don't want to get into a discussion of my views, because I'm too angry at the moment to be able to debate calmly with my friends, and I don't want to snap at you. The fact is that PETA produce horrendous, hate-filled adverts such as the one I've linked to. So it's okay to pick on fat people, because no vegetarians would ever be fat? Should you want to read it, my rant is further down that thread. Gah!!

There is smoke coming out of my ears. I need an "angry" userpic.

Date: 2002-09-07 06:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kiya
*speechless at the lot of it*

Date: 2002-09-07 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kixie.livejournal.com
Oh christ, that FUCKING law - that is the stupidest thing I think I've ever heard, aside from Bush JR's speeches.
I mean what RIGHT do they have to make a woman submit such personal information about themselves in the fucking NEWSPAPER!?

That's insane! I don't understand HOW that got passed and WHO suggested it - whoever he was should seriously be hit repeatedly with a halibut.

Date: 2002-09-08 04:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purplerabbits.livejournal.com
The Peta anti-fat ad is not only offensive and inaccurate - it's reinforcing one the of the misconceptions that puts people off going vegetarian i.e that it doesn't provide an adequate diet. After all, if you're *not* overweight and go veggie, will you waste away?

Date: 2002-09-08 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mjwin.livejournal.com
Some of the stuff which PETA come out with really makes my skin crawl. Their advertising campaigns seem to be ruled entirely by some over zealous (doubtless over paid) PR consultant whose brief is clearly to grab attention to the page at any cost. In the past this has included the gratuitous use of stereotypical images of women in addition to the offensive "fat" ad. The "fur" one was new to me, but as you point out, it's in exactly the same vein. Quite why they continue with this strategy which must alienate a huge percentage of prospective donors to the cause, remains a mystery to me. As an animal rights person, I just feel sickened to be associated with most of this stuff. But then again, I've never been convinced that PETA actually *do* much at all. There's another "International animal welfare" organization who really do get things done, and don't insult, alienate or patronize people in the process. They're the ones who get my support.

As for that new law in Florida... Well, I had to check that it wasn't april 1st, though a sick joke it would have been. I fail to see.... Well, to be honest, as far as the US goes at present, I'm suspending belief. This might sound extreme, but everywhere I turn the message is the same: The whole empire is simply spiralling out of control. Today's quote (courtesy of Tony Benn)"There are more black americans currently in prison than in higher education" Whatever happened to the voice of sanity- the great liberal american dream?

Makes old limey land seem quite a cosy little party...

Absolute laws

Date: 2002-09-10 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hiddenpaw.livejournal.com
The adoption thing is really not an exsample of a bad Idea but of something being passed as an absolute when the mass of possibilitys makes such an action foolish in the extream.

The point that if a mother wants to put a baby up for adoption to strangers then possible farthers should be given the option to take in thier own child rather than see them go to an unrelated person is a fair one but there are three points that are being ignored by this law.

1) If the Blood mothers long term partner wants to make their link to the child official then nothing is changing. The Blood mother is remaining in possition so the child has a Blood pearent as one of it's two gaurdians. In this case Tracing the blood farther is not nessersary.

2)The use of newspapers should be a second line of action. The first Line of action should be to use the govenmets ample resorces to track the potentual farthers using electual registers driving licence records or such like to trace people. If this works then the newspaper method would not be nessersary.

3) If the method in the second point dosn't work then it is fair in many cases to ask for the Newspaper method to be used. after all a father's right to care for his child surly has infinitly more baring if the mother dose not wish to. This said there are fair reasons to be lit off this like rape or having devorced due to violence on the part of the husband amoung others. In such cases a judge should be able to make a decition that it is not nessersary.

Beyond that the basic premis is good but trying to save money by jumping strait to option 3 is not in any way just or fair.

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