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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2100456623

Ugh.

It's not the Christianity that bothers me so much as the juxtaposition of President W Bush and Christianity. I'd say that for me, he sums up everything that's worst about some branches of Christianity - the things which have made some of my friends denounce Christianity altogether, and made me truly uncertain about calling myself a Christian.

I don't talk about my religion much simply to avoid misunderstandings. To sum it up in one sentence, I'm a pantheist who thinks that the things attributed to Jesus are sensible ideas. My beliefs are probably closest to those of the Quaker or Unitarian Universalist churches. I could not be further in stance from the pro-war, anti-abortion, anti-gay, fundamentalist, hatemongering so-called Christians. And yet, many of my friends think that to be Christian is to be pro-war, anti-abortion, and all those other things. So I can't use that word for myself.

I didn't see [livejournal.com profile] rivka's rant before I started writing this, but she says what I think only more eloquently. In the meantime, that image, and the views of that eBay seller, make me feel ill.

Date: 2002-09-18 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhw.livejournal.com
And yet, many of my friends think that to be Christian is to be pro-war, anti-abortion, and all those other things. So I can't use that word for myself.

Um... but if they don't see counterexamples like yourself and my other Christian friends, then they have no reason to think any differently. Don't let the opposition win by default - take your words back and use them proudly.

--Kay, who'd be a Friend or a UU if he were a Christian.

Date: 2002-09-19 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hiddenpaw.livejournal.com
Where there is religion there is power. Power corupts of leastways atracts the corupt to it.
I'm an agnostic with strong christian leanings but I distrust organised religion of all kinds. but without it we will be left with just atheists which from the point of veiw of somebody who dose belive in "Something" would be very sad. The george bush thing scares me because it shows a lot of what this war we see rushing towards us is really about.

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