The Mall of America broke my brain!

[baratron]

A brief rant:
Argh! I have just spent a very frustrating half hour in the alt.polycon consuite trying to figure out why my damn phone wouldn't connect to WiFi and kept attempting to dial up Orange GPRS instead. It transpires that I can only use my hotel WiFi username and password in my room. Argh!

The Mall of America is a scary, scary place. I'm not sure I can sum up succinctly why. The fact it contains a wedding chapel where you can get legally married (providing you are an opposite-sex couple and neither of you is already married) may have something to do with it. Also the food courts were absolutely terrifying. The only things I saw that did not contain more fat in just one meal than I usually eat in an entire day were the fruit juices and water. The level of artificial colourants was also fearsome. In the UK we have recognised that these things are bad for you and taken steps to limit their use: not so here where cookies contain alarming levels of bright red, blue and green.

I hit the Hot Topic, both Gamestops, and a shop selling Minnesota souvenirs. Then I headed back to the hotel for the alt.polycon introductions panel.

Comments

[baratron.livejournal.com]

To be fair, I wasn't thinking along the lines of "omg, the Americans eat so much shit" so much as "omg, the American restaurants sell so much shit". Like you say, the people in charge know full well that all that stuff is bad for you. They're the ones I'm angry at, not the consumers who assume something is suitable for human consumption because it's packaged and marketed that way :/

Outside of shopping mall and airport food courts, I've found two extremes of food - the complete junk of the burger places and Taco Hell, and really nice food. The Panera bread shop (http://baratron.livejournal.com/475725.html) is excellent (we went back there for lunch today), and certainly wasn't expensive ($3.49 for a large bowl of soup and some bread). And the Hard Times veggie/vegan cafe that we went to last night had enormous main meals with protein, complex carbs (wholemeal bread or brown rice) and lots of fresh veggies for $5 or under.

The thing that makes me most angry is that fruit, vegetables, complex carbohydrates and pulses are among the cheapest foods there are - and you can live quite healthily on very little else. (Throw in some dairy and nuts and you have a perfectly balanced diet). Fruit and veg are expensive out of season, but if you buy them locally produced in-season, or if you buy them tinned and/or frozen, then they can be extremely reasonable. So why, then, do all "cheap" meals - in both the US and at home, it's true - consist of a slab of highly-fried meat in white bread with some limp, tasteless, leaves?

Meh.

[baratron.livejournal.com]

Wow. Y'know, if you're anything like this abrasive, argumentative and dismissive in person, I'm not exactly surprised that you have trouble making friends.

I asked the friends I was staying with (from Chicago and the Bay Area) about your assertion, and they disagreed. They did point out that Rhode Island is small and doesn't have much farmland, so has to import a lot of its food from other states. I didn't have time to check the grocery prices in Minneapolis, but I got into NY last night and went into two supermarkets here. Both locally owned, not big chains. Bananas were 39c for 1 lb, grapes were 89c for 1 lb, sugar snap peas were 79c for 1 lb... As for Chinese greens (cabbages, pak choi, choi sum etc), they were around 99c for 2 lbs. The most expensive fruits were avocados, at $1.49 each, and cantaloupe melons at $3. All of these fruits and veggies were of a quality that I would buy and eat. There were some others even cheaper, but they were visibly a bit limp or tired.

As for the business about the food being "comprised almost entirely of GMOs" and GMOs "producing pesticides inside the food itself", man, you believe some crap. Most genetically-modified organisms contain one or two transgenes from other species. A few contain maybe up to 10. Yes, there has been cross-pollination of normal crops with genetically-modified pollen, but even then we're talking about one or two transgenes. Genes are made of DNA, and as a scientist, I do not fear DNA. There is no way for genes from food to become detached from the food cells' nucleus and somehow migrate into our human genome - if there was a way to do this, then genetic therapy for diseases such as cystic fibrosis would be much easier, and they wouldn't need to use retroviruses and modified cancer cells to do it.