and more about ME/CFS

[baratron]

M.E. is an illness. M.E. stands for Myalgic Encephalomyelitis - which is a bit of a mouthful, but basically means muscle ("myalgic") and head ("encephalitic") symptoms. M.E. is also known as Post-Viral Fatigue Syndrome (PVFS), because it often follows on from a viral infection. Also known as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS) or Chronic Fatigue and Immune Dysfunction Syndrome (CFIDS).

As its name suggests, M.E. mainly affects the muscles and the head. Muscle symptoms include severe fatigue upon exercise, muscle pain and spasms, influenza-like malaise, clumsiness, poor memory, concentration and balance, non-refreshing sleep, sore throats, enlarged glands, and joint pains. Head symptoms include headaches, dizziness, "swimmy" feelings, and perhaps the most difficult to handle, loss of concentration and short-term memory.

These are not the only symptoms experienced in M.E. Sufferers will often feel "ill all over", and experience many flu-like symptoms; nausea, shivering, fever, and generally over-react to heat and cold. Some unfortunate sufferers may be in unremitting pain.

Digestive problems are common; constipation or diarrhoea, gas bloating and bowel pain. Alcohol intolerance may also occur.

Depression and emotional problems are often a part of M.E, but it is important to realise that these are a symptom of the illness, and not its cause. Some sufferers are very emotionally volatile and unpredictable - they may get angry or depressed for no apparent reason, or even cry at the slightest upset. This may be due to the illness affecting the nervous system. - Edited from mehelpinfo.users.btopenworld.com.

Great. A perfect description of me, associated with an illness which many doctors still don't believe exists, and which has no cure. Now I have to wait for an appointment to see my doctor, because although I could get an emergency appointment tomorrow to see someone, they won't have time in a 10-minute appointment to read my entire file. As my many ailments have been going on for months or years, it's important for them to see the history. And hey, if it is ME, waiting a couple of weeks to see someone isn't going to make any difference.

Comments

[lizw.livejournal.com]

Hmm. On the one hand, that does mostly read like the history of someone with ME brought on by an immunisation that, for whatever reason, their immune system reacted to abnormally. On the other hand, if that was the cause, I'd actually expect *more* of a reaction at the site of the injection rather than less, because one of the hallmarks of ME is that the immune system becomes overstimulated.

The glandular fever episode would make sense as an ME relapse that just happened to manifest first through a recurrence/intensification of your depression and then physically. It would be unusual as a *first* manifestation of ME, because depression is not normally a presenting symptom, i.e. it is not normally the first thing that people notice or consult a doctor about. This is one of the points that is used in differential diagnosis of ME.

If what you have really is ME, then my guess would be that the sequence of events went something like this: you had an atypical reaction to the BCG, but it wasn't the BCG itself that triggered the ME. Rather, I'd guess that the BCG left your immune system too stressed to cope with the colds/flus that came shortly afterwards, meaning that those viruses then triggered the ME.

ME really was terribly badly understood even quite recently, especially in children. About six years ago there was a girl in her early teens at my old church who had it, and her GP was absolutely adamant that she couldn't have it because "children don't get ME". This culminated in the incident where he refused her a medical note to get out of swimming and advised her school's swimming instructor that she was faking it when she said her muscles hurt too much to swim. It took being rescued from the pool by the lifeguard before the school finally believed her.

Meep!

[baratron.livejournal.com]

Damnit! By the time I went to the doctor with depression, I had already been living with chronic pain for a couple of years. You see, the chronic pain stuff was dealt with by my old GP at home in Camberley, whereas the depression was dealt with by my new GP at college. If I'd seen my old GP, she would have made the connection, I'm sure, but as it was...

The college doctors had my medical history there for them to see (in fact, my current GP has my notes going all the way back to when I was born, so I know that college must have had them), and they never asked about the pain, and it didn't seem relevant. I was much less educated about health problems than I am now.

In my second year at university, I kept falling asleep in classes again, as I had done at school, and was terribly worried about it, because (a) I was missing stuff, (b) it's dangerous to be potentially collapsing in a chemistry lab situation. I brought this up to my pile-of-shit GP (http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?journal=baratron&itemid=76782) then - that I was falling asleep in class despite sleeping for sometimes as long as 12 hours a night, I was exhausted all the time, putting on weight despite eating fairly sensibly (I was in a catered hall with good, healthy food), and had cold after cold after cold. And she put me on fucking sleeping tablets!! Which did nothing... I couldn't get to sleep until 2 or 3 in the morning whatever I did, and then I'd need to sleep until the afternoon. I remember one night taking 4 times the dosage on the packet, because I needed to sleep so badly I didn't care anymore - every muscle in my body ached and I was in so much pain, but I just couldn't get my brain to switch over.

Oh yes, to say nothing of the fact that I couldn't be depressed because I was sleeping too much and putting on weight, whereas depressed people sleep too little and lose weight - but I think that rant's in the link I gave. I would sue that god-damned GP if I had the energy to :(