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I have a doctor who has been treating me for mental health stuff for years, who I trust with my life and medication even though he's "only" a GP with a special interest in mental health rather than a psychiatrist. He's a remarkably intelligent and perceptive man, and he likes to say things to patients like me to provoke us into taking charge of ourselves.

One of the things my doctor said a while ago that made me angry was this: there's a theory that only people who live in relatively safe situations experience depression. If you live in a country where you can't afford to eat and there's no other way of getting food; and you don't have access to clean water; and you don't know when you might get killed by a disease that modern medicine can cure, that you can't afford the treatment for; or when your government might decide to kill you for speaking out against it... then it would be normal to be angry, frustrated, anxious and depressed. Except the definition for clinical depression specifically excludes being upset because of those sorts of situational things, because they're perfectly reasonable things to be angry, frustrated, anxious or depressed about! Even if people there do feel depressed, you wouldn't necessarily experience the depression of people in more developed countries, because they don't have time - they're too busy trying to survive to be depressed. While the people who can't cope and decide to stop struggling don't have to seek death through active suicide, it will just happen.

It's a thought that makes me angry because I didn't choose to be depressed, and if a simple change of perspective would make my brain biochemistry work the way it's supposed to, I'd embrace it with all my heart and soul. Now I can make myself depressed just thinking about the fact that I'm so lucky in my daily life, and the worst I'm likely to experience on any given day is DRAMA on TEH INTARNETS! But there must be some truth that most living things in the wild undergo a daily struggle to survive; while some of us humans are now lucky enough to live in situations where we have no daily struggle to find food, shelter, warmth or companionship. Was our depression borne from us turning that struggle inwards? Do we, in fact, need some sort of struggle for survival in order to feel properly alive?

If only the depression didn't come with a general dampening down on positive emotions, it'd be great :/

Date: 2007-09-25 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quiet000001.livejournal.com
I don't know if I'd class it as needing some sort of struggle- just that different situations produce different levels of chemicals in the brain, and in some cases those levels may be sufficent to overcome an inherent imbalance. (I.e. if your typical level is below normal, but your situation ramps it up a bunch, then your functional level would be above what would be 'normal' in an ordinary situation, allowing you to function. It just wouldn't perhaps be as high as in someone in the same situation without the innate chemistry difference.)

Also, I don't think you can just point to living conditions. We know very well that diet can effect the body in all sorts of ways, and there is some research to indicate that things like omega 3 oils really have quite a lot to do with the functioning of the brain. So I think you'd also need to look at both the typical diet and the heritage of people eating that diet. (Someone descended from a long line of folks from an area where fish is a staple may well do much better on a diet very high in omega 3s, whereas for someone who comes from ancestors from a place where fish is a rarity may not need so much dietary omega 3 because the system doesn't expect to be getting it, you know?)

Lastly, that theory is overlooking the question of what happens if you take those folks and remove them from that environment. For example, I didn't really start seriously suffering from depression until Neph and I were in a very emotionally difficult and stressful situation- the kind of thing where situational depression is NORMAL. The problem for me was that the depression didn't go away when the situation did- so quite possibly I was in a depressing situation AND clinically depressed from a biochemical standpoint- but I wouldn't've been diagnosed as clinically depressed at that time, due to the nature of the definition for clinical depression.

Date: 2007-09-25 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baratron.livejournal.com
I'm not sure that the theory is supposed to have a definite right or wrong answer so much as being a place to start a discussion. I'm also not sure to what extent I believe in it. It's interesting and it explains some things, but it's rather impossible to prove.

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